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DO YOU FEEL WAR IS UNJUST ??????????

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DO YOU FEEL WAR IS UNJUST ??????????
4/5/2008 7:34 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

DO YOU FEEL WAR SHOULD STOP???
DO YOU FEEL YOUR COUNTRY IS DOING WRONG BY YOU???
DO YOU FEEL ITS TIME TO STOP???

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4/16/2008 9:09 AM
郝正华, 21
Tianjin
China

I am a Chinese ,and I think my country is trying its best efforts to keep the peace of the world,I believe in that China is doing a right thing.
Peace and develoment is the topic of the world,we need peace,not war!

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4/16/2008 9:45 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

what about the happing s in Tibet??

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5/22/2008 11:42 AM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

you think so,,,,,,,,,i would buycot china if i had the power,,,,,till it straighten`s itself out,,,,,,,,,,look at Tibet,,,,,,and we speak out for the people, and your country tells us to shut the hell up, or you don't do triad with us,,,,,,,,i would not care,,,,,,,,,,
ILLUSIONS, MASK REALITY princess,,,,,,,,,,

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4/6/2008 3:54 AM
peter, 39
galway
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4/6/2008 4:02 AM
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4/6/2008 4:27 AM
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4/6/2008 4:40 AM
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4/6/2008 5:12 AM
SWEET ANGEL_, 36Royal Zorpian Verified Zorpian
Buenos Aires
Argentina

HELLO PETER THANK FOR YOU INVITE !
IS UNJUST!!!
VIDEO OMG :(

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4/6/2008 5:28 AM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

HELLO THEIR;-)))
I WAS BEGINNING TO GIVE UP HOPE LOL,,,
IF YOU GOT ANY PIC OR VIDEOS YOU CAN SHARE THEM HERE,,,
SO THE WORLD MIGHT SEE,,

DONT BE A STRANGER DJPR

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4/6/2008 7:34 AM
Loida, 52Royal Zorpian
Caloocan City
Philippines

HELLO PETER.
FOR ME, WAR IS ALWAYS UNJUST AND UNFAIR
AT ALL TIMES AND AT ALL PLACES AND AT ANY
GIVEN SITUATION OR CIRCUMSTANCES.
THE INNOCENT, THE CIVILLIAN, THE WEAK,
THE SICK, THE CHILDREN, THE WOMEN,
THE OLDS AND ALL OTHER LOWLY CREATURES
INCLUDING THE NATURE IS ALWAYS THE VICTIM.
BUT WAR IS HERE FOR A REASON THAT SOMETIMES
MEN CANNOT UNDERSTAND....WHY THERE SHOULD BE
WAR IF PEOPLE CAN LEAVE IN PEACE INSTEAD?
I JUST SHARE SHARED MY POINT OF VIEW PETER.
JUST ME,
LOID

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4/6/2008 8:55 AM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

hi again;-))
i think you hit the nail on the head,,war is here for a reason,,doesn't mean we have to like,,
if the good men in the world did not fight,,then the bad would take over,,then the good would also be bad,,,,,hemmmmmm
the only way for peace is to find a common ground ,in which to live,,,,,,,what do you think??

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4/6/2008 3:19 PM
Loida, 52Royal Zorpian
Caloocan City
Philippines

I DON'T LIKE WAR MOVIES.
BUT ONE TIME, I HAVE WATCHED THE MOVIE
"BRAVE HEART" OF MEL GIBSON.
IT IS A WAR MOVIE...STORY OF FREEDOM, SLAVERY,
LOVE, DRAMA AND ACTION....
AND I AGRE WITH WHAT YOU SAID, IF THERE IS NO WAR,
THE BAD ONES WILL CONTINUE BEING BAD. AND IN THAT
CASE, SLAVERY WILL TAKE PLACE ALL OVER THE LAND.
THAT THAT IS MORE WORST THAN WAR.
FOR ME, THERE IS NO COMMON GROUND FOR PEACE HERE
ON EARTH. THAT IS HARD TO ACHIEVE.
SO WHAT I DID, I LET PEACE OF GOD STAY IN MY HEART
AND ON MY MIND. THE PEACE THAT COMES FROM GOD
IS A KIND OF PEACE THAT THE EARTH WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
AND BECAUSE THE PEACE OF GOD IS IN MY WHOLE BEING,
EVEN IF THE SOROUNDINGS IS NOT PEACEFUL, I CAN
ENJOY MY DEEP SLEEP. AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
TO ME...MY GOOD SLEEP.........WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING
ABOUT HOW TO STOP WAR. BUT WE CAN HAVE PEACE AND
ENJOY IT. IF ALL PEOPLE HAVE PEACE INSIDE THEIR HEART,
THEN OUR EARTH IS A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE...MAYBE
THE WAR WILL STOP........

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4/6/2008 12:36 PM
Nada, 24
Saudi Arabia

OH Peter....I have lots of things to say about every video. I'll get back to this topic soon.

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4/6/2008 12:43 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

just heading of again;-((( back on later princess,,,,,,,
got to get my exercise in lol,,,,
and thanks for coming,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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4/7/2008 2:27 PM
Kevin Scott, 42
Florida
United States

War is never pleasant nor should it be. It should be declared only when all other intellectual means have been attempted and then only if there is clear and imminent danger because once at war there can only be one winner and one loser although both sides will pay a severe cost.

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4/7/2008 2:53 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

a very true and great response kevin,,thank you for that,,,
everybody take note,, a very powerful message,,,,,,
sometimes a little can say so much,,,,,,

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4/8/2008 12:11 AM
Nada, 24
Saudi Arabia

whenever war takes place then there will be injustice. The only war that could be somehow "honorable" is when people try to defend themselves or their country. Palestine is a great example.
I would like to believe like you Peter that all the wars should stop but sadly this is not the reality. The reality is that there is good and there is evil even among ourselves. I can be a good person if I defeted my own evil. Not all people want or can do that. That's why we see nice people and that's why we see bad people .
GOOD AND EVIL the story of life !

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4/8/2008 12:56 AM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

Hebrew Bible period
Persian rule (538 BCE)
Hellenistic rule (333 Hasmonean Dynasty (140 BCE)
Roman rule (63 BCE)
Byzantine (Eastern Roman Empire) rule (330–640 CE)
Arab Caliphate rule (638–1099 CE)
Umayyad rule (661–750 CE)
Abbasid rule (750–969 CE)
Fatimid rule (969–1099 CE)
Crusader rule (1099–1187 CE)
Mamluk rule (1270–1516 Ce) Ottoman rule (1516–1831 CE)
Egyptian Rule (1831-1841)
Ottoman Rule (1841-1917)

The 20th century
British Mandate (1920–1948)
UN partition

who started the war?and why did they flee


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4/8/2008 2:06 AM
Nada, 24
Saudi Arabia

Oooooh I wish my sister could answer you . she has studied history and she is really good at it.
Hebrow Bible ,Persian rule, Hellenistic rule , Roman rule, Byzantine....I honestly know nothing about them.
We have studied a bit about the Romans and Byzantines but all is gone....lol I can't remember anything !
Arab Caliphate rule:
After the death of the prophet Muhammed (pbuh). People chose his closest friends to be leaders. It was not a war. As for Ummayi , Abbasi , Fatimi , Mamluk, Egyptian and ottman rule. These were after the Arab Claiphates.
The colonization period ( where Britain , Germany , France colonized some Arab countries ( for geographical interests and for power)and some coutries of Africa (for Slaves trade). Algeria was called "Belad Al Malioon " , meaning the country where a million Muslim died for freedom of the colonizing country France. Colonization is the reason Why people in Algeria and Morocco still can not speak Arabic properly. They were forced to speak and learn in French.Morocco still to this day have French as its formal language . After the long struggle , Arabs freed their contries. EXCEPT for Palestine where Britain promised the Jews to have their country there. They came to Palestine to kill and take the Palestinian Land.The Palestinian struggle to this day.
I wish I could answer you but every period of "rule" takes a volume. Lots of complications. It's not as simple as you think. But history is really interesting.
I don't have a short answer to your question and I don't claim to know much.

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4/8/2008 2:35 AM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

i understand ,,.but as history is important,,it is only useful to understand and not to blame,,,it was a different time and struggle ,,,.but it is important to ask,,andd more important to learn from what we have learned,,.it is not enough to even understand,,as this will fester in feelings as their is so many, what road will it take,,.the one thing that is important is that we see clearer what has happened,,.and how we control it from the now

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5/21/2008 12:25 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland


its a pity it doesn't mention how many innocent irackeys died,,,,,,,,

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5/22/2008 9:56 AM
Nada, 24
Saudi Arabia

God bless Cindy....A righteous person who stands up for what's right!
How funny talking about democracy when they act like imperialists.
The american troops are fighting a ghost Bush created .The first thing the American did when they came to Iraq was to secure the oil companies...they really care about people (NOT).
I'm disgusted by this world when evil politicians try to act like they own people and the land.
By the way Fox (and lots of the American media) is controlled by evil zionists...so I'm not really surprised!

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5/22/2008 11:32 AM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

ILLUSIONS, MASK REALITY princess,,,
but then again, the twin towers was no ghost,,,,and i don't know princess, but if i was their that day watching the innocent people jump to there death screaming ,,,and so many people,,,i would have done something about it, an thats for sure,,,but i don't think what they done was right,,it was all wrong ,,and don't forget that congress did not give it full support ether,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,ILLUSIONS, MASK REALITY princess,,,
but to add to what ive said,,,i would not would not would not have let things get that bad,(ie)911,,,he knew something like that was coming,,,something like that just doesn't happen out of the blue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,ILLUSIONS, MASK REALITY princess,,,
and don't u forget that the people that has oil out there are filthy stinking rich also and the most people live in shanty towns of sorts,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ILLUSIONS, MASK REALITY princess,,,
were all to blame,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ILLUSIONS, MASK REALITY princess,,,
ILLUSIONS, MASK REALITY
Thursday,May 22 2008, 05:40:22 AM
ILLUSIONS, MASK REALITY
,
what is real,
what is fake
what`s our quest,
for god sake
grab the food,
shoot to kill
grab the wealth,
blood ill spill
,
death and arms,
come devils fire`s
spend our life,
with one desire`s
the death toll rise
the ground is red,
we pledge the lord
the devil is dead
,
illusions mask
re-al-ity
with all our con
from cross the sea,
the truth may find
an open door
its never new
its been before
,
a brother dead
a mother mourn
another life
tread an torn
no come back
from in the grave
turn on the fire
its what he gave
,
how many more
will make the pain
we watch the sky
for lowering plane
we think of us
important state
we think of them
is who we hate
f**k them
f**k you
f**k me
were all worthless
illusions mask
reality for sure djpr

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5/22/2008 2:17 PM
Nada, 24
Saudi Arabia

dear Peter,
As a Muslim Arab I felt sad for the Americans who died in 9/11 . Muslims scholars here denounded it and also the American Muslims denounced it. The war on Terror I see it as an excuse to attack any Islamic country for whatever reason .
When I said "ghost" , I meant the "false" image of any Arab Muslim to be a terrorist. This is unfair to be punished for what a group of people has done. A group of people who every true Muslim would denounce.

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5/22/2008 2:50 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

i know that princess Nada;-)))
i wasn't attacking you,or fellow friend
you are my very good friend,,
i was rather saying how messed up we all are,,,
and its become such a norm,,
is their any way back from it all,,
the next war is only starting,,
we here are soon voting for a treaty to bring wealth from Europe,
which also means we must fight if europe says so,of a kind,,
but they sneak this in behind flashing lights,,
the next big super power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!
we all pray
for
war to stop
for the sick
for the poor
for the good life
for happiness
for family
for friends
and each other
has it worked ###
why doesn't he make or break,
its past time,,who wouldn't agree,,,,,,,,,

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5/22/2008 5:28 PM
Nada, 24
Saudi Arabia

I never thought of you attacking me , Peter. I'm a good judge of characters and I think you have a noble heart.You are also my very good friend :)
I also think that the world war 3 is on its way that's why I feel sad and scared.

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5/22/2008 8:45 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

yes princess,,,you know what it will come from where we least expect it,,,and it wont be from religion

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5/22/2008 4:02 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

ok look at it this way,,the US is a great country,,and read this,,,they don't hate religion types,,
look
:
Tibetan monks carve out new home in US heartland
2 hours ago
BLOOMINGTON, Indiana (AFP) — In the rolling hills of Indiana, Tibetan monks pray for their homeland. They have little hope of returning.
While their spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, tours Western nations in hope of drumming up support for Tibetan autonomy, these ten monks work to keep their culture alive in exile.
They tend the lush grounds dotted with two stunning stupas and a scattering of Mongolian yurts, teach meditation, hold regular prayer services and introduce curious locals and tourists to the art, architecture and music of their homeland.
Founded by the Dalai Lama's brother, the Tibetan Mongolian Buddhist Cultural Center is now run by the most senior religious leader to leave Tibet in decades.
Arjia Thubten Lobsang Rinpoche was the abbot of the influential Kumbum Monastery and spent years publicly defending the Chinese government's policies.
That ended in 1998 when he was told to tutor the Panchen Lama selected by Beijing to replace the child chosen by the Dalai Lama.
Rinpoche, 58, fled to the United States (((((where his is free))))) to air his true feelings about the Chinese rulers.
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they let everything go,,,
but its the greed of welth,,nothing to do with religeon,,
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its not race color,,
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they got a black man running at the moment for god sake,,
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we both know this,,but even blogs free as they are say one or the other a lot of the time,,
and i respect the world is learning to communicate,,
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and from all i know about irackey`s in there own land is from a close friend who was out there years ago,,was that they were the friendliest people he ever met he said,,
and welcomed him with open arms,,
they didn't care what religion he was, nor tried to change him ether,,,and they would give him anything they had, which wasn't a lot,,
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so where did all the hate come from?,,
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were a mess princess,,,
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the world has gotten to small :-((
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their should be know europe,,
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their should only be one world power
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where all countries are in it and the economy shared,,,
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their should be a tablet drawn up,,with economy rules for wealth sharing,,
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1% of all wealth would see poverty no more,,
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how simple is that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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would that hit your pocket?/no
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we have more food stored that would feed all the world`s starving,,
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is that so difficult?/no
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if we spent all the money on technology that we now spend on war, we would all be richer,,
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is it so imposable?/not
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and if this was our pilot ,,no people would stand behind a government that waged war,,
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can you see this?,,
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all governments should be as one,,,
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and any country that will not pertisapate should be removed
by its own people,,as they are boycotted by all other countries,,regardless of their reasorses,,nothing in /nor out,,
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if it takes 100yrs this map should be started now,,
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if the world united as one and shared its resorses in a proper way,,it would end,,,,,,,
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for every % profit a company makes for introducing a new machine to cut down workforce,,a certain % should be given to those who lost their job,,and another % worth in work hours for who they keep,,,its still maths,,,and profit,hand in hand,,,
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8hrs away from home. 8hrs with family, 8hrs sleep,,
nothing else is worth it,,
all unemployed should be brought in to the work forse to reduce hours for all,,
nothing more killing that giving someone money to stay at home,,,
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the economy will adjust if this is in every sector,,,
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ie: when 10 out of a 100 lose there job due to hightec
they work anywhere with the company % form profit increase, + the normal handout,,a small cut in the stayed employer,,and reduce the working hours off all,,,
?
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i even see a better plan now lol lol
id better stop,,going on an on here lol lol

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5/22/2008 5:17 PM
Nada, 24
Saudi Arabia

Peter...you know...you reminded me of myself years ago..I used to have dreams like that.. dreams of unity , dreams of people with no ill-intentions...But I can't think or dream of that any more.
However, you still cheered me up with your well-intentions for the world.

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5/22/2008 7:22 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

this is the same reply i just gave someone else a moment ago;-))
i only shout with despair in the hope it will change one more persons mind to a thoughtful thinking,,,as just one more may make the difference,,,
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reminds me of a story i heard,,,
of an old man down at the beach early one morning, and the place was covered with baby crabs,,and the old man was trowing them into the sea, as they would not all make it to the water,,and would die in the day`s heat,,
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a young boy seen him and said,,hay old man there are thousands of them,,what difference will it make?,,
the old man bent down and picked one up ,leaned back and fired it high and long into the sea,,then looked at the little boy and said, it made a difference to that one,,
its all i try:-))))

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5/22/2008 7:50 PM
laila, 46
Denmark

War is always unjust! I really believe in the respect of other people and showing it can make a difference.
Thank you for beeing so enthusiastic fighting the thoughts of war Peter, you are very idealistic and we do need more people like you in the world ;-)
The last years it has not been so nice being danish, the particpating in the war in Irac and the increasing race enmity among ordinary people - I hate it.
I liked the little story of the old man - you can make a difference doing right yourself ;-)

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5/22/2008 8:04 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

we must must must must must must must try princess,,
i have 4 beautiful kids,,and i fear for them in this world,,,
and i fear for others too,,,this will only end in tears,,for us all,,,
europe is the next super power,,
all glossed over with flashing lights,,,read the documents,,
were heading for disaster with haste,,
with no consideration of consquince ,,,
no one gives a s**t any more,,goverments wont even explain,,just say we must we must we must do it,,its good for us,,,
good for our economy,,,what can i say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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5/22/2008 8:07 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

and reading what i said just rings home what anyone will say about the post i just wrote,,hahahaha this guy is crazy ,,,
to be good , is to be exiled any more,,,sad so sad,,,

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5/22/2008 8:17 PM
laila, 46
Denmark

Yes we MUST DO all we can, every day,all the time!! to meet other people with respect and peacefull thoughts and understanding of eachother.
You are right - it feels like noone gives a s*i* sometimes......and just carry on the wrong way out of the track.
I was afraid too, when we had the Mohammed crises in Denmark caused by some drawings, it could explode any minute with violence, we are very volnerable.
And you have 4 kids to think of! Just keep on doing what you do my friend! keep the spirit in spite of the fear and we can only hope ........ ;-)

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5/22/2008 8:42 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

its not so much fear,,,but sad for them and the way the world is left for them,,and if not them their kids,,
its boiling for beating right now,,,even the European union,,
what its becoming,,,yes its ok now,,but the power that they seek is worrying to say the least,,,

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5/23/2008 5:58 AM
laila, 46
Denmark

I think I know what you mean, it makes me sad too ;-)
Money and power is like a new religion and there are a lot of fanitics there............

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5/23/2008 1:24 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

can anyone do something nowwwwwwwwwwww

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5/23/2008 2:24 PM
raj, 20
manali
India

india is the country thats workin for the peace....
we r the people who r totally concerned about the peace in our cntry

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5/23/2008 3:00 PM
peter, 39
galway
Ireland

great to hear friend;-))
what exactly are you doing over their?
please explain to me;-)))

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5/28/2008 9:04 PM
GUS, 44Verified Zorpian
galway
Ireland

just a little war..like putting a little brown sauce on your dinner..too much sauce and the taste of the dinner and the taste for war is rotten and the cotton was forgotten and young people rise for another war and another load of sauce,,,gus,

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