Sean, to be honest, we don't have proof Jesus and God are real. I believe n them, but I don't pray to them or thank them because there is absolutely no proof that they created life. It is only stories people tell, as he probably didn't create the world. He probably just came out of a child's imaginantion. I think it's rediculous to belive in someting without prrof of it first. I do respect your opinions and belifs, so respect my opinion.

Sorry I respect no one only my Gods opinion. IF you believe in no life then you must not excist, just some imagination!!!

Lynne,
is air/oxygen real?..... yes, but can you see it?, can you smell it?, can you taste it?, can you touch it?.... the answer is no, everything about its existence tells us its not real, a figure of our imagination. There is no evidence in logical sense to prove it exists, to believe in it.
So what makes it real?, our need for it makes it real. We KNOW its real because we experience it, we breath it and its the source of our life. We KNOW that without it we die.
Air/ oxygen can help us understand Jesus and God. Those who don’t know him, don’t experience him, say that he's not real because they cant see him, cant taste him, cant touch or smell him. But we know from the oxygen analogy that that doesn't mean your not real- just because our senses tell us that something isn’t there, it doesn't mean their correct. Let me tell you Lynne God is REAL. He DID create the earth and all that’s around you in 7 miraculous days. He DID send his son to this earth to die for your sins because he loves you. and lastly he IS coming again, very soon....and why can i say this?, why do i know this?.. because just like you and i both know from experiencing oxygen, its real, I have experienced God and i KNOW he is real.

And the bible why is that real?.. well tell me why your age old history books are real?, why do you believe them?. no one is here to tell you verbally a 1st person account of their story and judge validity and accuracy, you cant tell me why their real, you just believe them. Just like the bible no one is here to tell you verbally a first person account of its story but the men who existed in history the disciples, Matthew Mark Luke and John believed it was real, they died horrendous deaths because of their beliefs, because of what they wrote down ( the story of Christ)their separate 1st person accounts- tell me would they really be prepared to die in excruciating ways for something that was fake?.

EVIDENCE why wait for it?, its there I am sure... you will just have to look for it/ but Lynne man is man, we make mistakes, even in science, the truth is very gray and not so black and white.

All said and done Lynne, i can talk till the moon comes down but ultimately YOU have to work this out with God. i think anything you choose to believe in will have to have a measure of faith... I only have one thought to leave with you....Those who experience him and have a relationship with him know that he is real.
Guidance is the key Lynne, Ill be praying for you
Zoe-Tess.

Wow... Youve explaine it all... Thats a real gift u got there... All glory be to God. Do not neglect ure gift. God has done this to you for a reson. He wants to do something big in your life. Just remain in him and he will remain in you. "He who started something in you will carry on to completion". This is wisdom you got there... You know what to say when to say and how to say

amen to that gUrl...man you put it in such a wonderfUL way...im a christian too and was wonderin if u are any pastor or jus being filled with the hOly spirit....I just really Loved the way you put that whole story of Is God Real...luved it gurl..
gOd bless you and KeeP it real...
"Fruitful service grows in the soil of faithful worship"

hey Lynn!ok...im not sean but am a Christian and certainly want to let you nOe dat God is real and alive today...
First of aLL there is aloT of prooF...dat even the museums have many scripts to show how real Jesus is.Also there is also The one and only bible ever!
Now u tell me why have so many bibles been published and as you must nOe it is the only bOok that has been sold since then up until now and stil goin!
nOt to judge you or anything but just lettin you nOe that you should believe and look up facts and hear the awesome testimonies from people who have been changed through the LoRd..
here look up Reggie Dabbs, an evengelist, and see how God has changed his life!
lUV ya ..
tashi

Perhaps to you that is ALL life is!!!!! But to me, I see beauty, Love, Kindness, and most of all , HOPE!!!!!!!! I see my Lord, ARRIVING AMONGST THE CLOUDS IN GREAT GLORY!!!!!!

how are you all? i hope fine. Again i want show my respect to all religions and the aim of my topics is to show islam in its right view.
here is list by the new topics
1- persentation
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419617
2- Islam(Meanings)
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419629
3- 5 Actions In Islam
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419739
4- Islam Is - A Complete And Total Way of Life
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419871
5- 6 Beliefs Of Muslims
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419672
6- Rights & Limitations in ISLAM
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419976
7-The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/420181

All my best wishes.

Jesus said there is more hapinness in giving than in receiving. Life has a better color when we share what we have than to wait for others to give you what they have.
If Jesus did not accept to give His live how today we would have it.
The great thing is that:
"we possess everything when we give the only thing we possess."
That wonderful!!!

how are you all? i hope fine. Again i want show my respect to all religions and the aim of my topics is to show islam in its right view.
here is list by the new topics
1- persentation
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419617
2- Islam(Meanings)
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419629
3- 5 Actions In Islam
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419739
4- Islam Is - A Complete And Total Way of Life
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419871
5- 6 Beliefs Of Muslims
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419672
6- Rights & Limitations in ISLAM
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419976
7-The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/420181

All my best wishes.

Any one who confess an other name than Jesus-Christ as only Savior and Lord between God and men is not from God.
Only Jesus-Christ can lead us to the God's glory. No one else.

It is not a matter of religion or tradition but something about salvation from eternal death. Religion won't save any one. We can be religious but still far from God's will. We just need to be washed in the blood of Christ the Lamb of God and receive the Holy Spirit and dwell in the presence of the Lord still now and forever.

Our only enemy is the devil who wants and is working to push us far from the presence of the Lord.

Peace & wisdom!!!

Its nice to hear Some nice comments from fellow Christians its upliftinf to the spirit!

Thanks for the reminder. :)

Jesus said it best.

So you are the christians of the site. look at your self then say thank you jesus, for if it wasn't for you i wouldn't be here. because there is no truth to life but life it self.
you live with sin then sin lives with you!!! stay strong christians, for God has great plans for you!!! Pray for Man who does not know God, that one day they will!!! God Bless you all!!!

Hey everybody... nice to see and meet fellow believers around the world. If you want to get to know me more visit my group (followers of Jesus) and check the topics or add me at merv_warrior4jah@hotmail.com.
Thx
Take care
God Bless you all

Jesus ia Lord and thats the reason as to why we should live,How many times do we forget the really gift that He gave for us.

Am glad that am a christian and i have hope in Christ.

It's a fact that Jesus is real,eye witness accounts and evidence. those who believe without seeing will be blessed.

u got it ;O)
In fact, there is more prof that the Bible is right, than a normal history book, which we learn about in school, nowadays!!!

Think about that...

>The professor of a university challenged his students with this question.
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>"Did God create everything that exists?" A student answered bravely, "Yes, he did".
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>The professor then asked, "If God created everything, then he created evil. Since evil exists (as noticed by our own actions), so God is evil.
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>The student couldn't respond to that statement causing the professor to conclude that he had "proved" that "belief in God" was a fairy tale, and therefore worthless.
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>Another student raised his hand and asked the professor, "May I pose a question?" "Of course" answered the professor.
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>The young student stood up and asked: "Professor does Cold exists?"
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>The professor answered, "What kind of question is that?...Of course the cold exists... haven't you ever been cold?"
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>The young student answered, "In fact sir, Cold does not exist. According to the laws of Physics, what we consider cold, in fact is the absence of heat. Anything is able to be studied as long as it transmits energy (heat). Absolute Zero is the total absence of heat, but cold does not exist. What we have done is create a term to describe how we feel if we don't have body heat or we are not hot."
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>"And, does Dark exist?", he continued. The professor answered "Of course". This time the student responded, "Again you're wrong,Sir. Darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in fact simply the absence of light. Light can be studied, darkness can not. Darkness cannot be broken down. A simple ray of light tears the darkness and illuminates the surface where the! light beam finishes. Dark is a term that we humans have created to describe what happens when there's lack of light."
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>Finally, the student asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?" The professor replied, "Of course it exists, as I mentioned at the beginning, we see violations, crimes and violence anywhere in the world, and those things are evil."
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>The student responded, "Sir, Evil does not exist. Just as in the previous cases, Evil is a term which man has created to describe the result of the absence of God's presence in the hearts of man.
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>After this, the professor bowed down his head, and didn't answer back.
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>The young man's name was ALBERT EINSTEIN.
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>I would like to quote a few verses from the Bible:
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>"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who supress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools." Romans 1:18-22
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>"Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:8
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>"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life... He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe in Him is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." John 3:16-19
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>"But I saw no temple in it (i.e. the heavenly city) for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb (i.e. the Lord Jesus Christ) are its temple. The city had no need of hte son or the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light. And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light... But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's Book of Life." Revelation 21:22-27.

hey louiji...that was an awesome story fact of Albert Einstien...i neva woUld of thoUghT it wouLd come form hIm..
WeLL that just filled up my day...Go Lord...Go loRd...hE exists!>>>yeah..yeah<<< anywaiZkeep weLL and nIce to heaR the BelieverZ sayiN sumtin'...Much lUv
peacE!
Im out('',)

In God we trust. The teachings and ethical values put in black and white by you are simply the best. Thats what ISLAM teaches. Love, regard and sacrifices are the momentous preachings of Islam. If you study Islam deeply and thoroughly, you will come to know that islam is the only religion that presents utmost and compact modes of instructions applicable in every field of life. I invite you to Islam.

Thankyou Irfan for your humble invitation, but what you describe being in Islam I have already found within my walk of faith in Jesus Christ and see no reason to abandon that. And I have seen for myself the miracles, the healings and the revelations brought forth in Jesus' name. Being a Christian has changed my life for the better and spiritually I know I have found the truth. I hope someday you will also find delight in that truth that is Jesus Christ.

HI evryone...im new, n am a christian. Nice to hia some of the comments to the above topic.
Wat Dr Sean has said about life is true..hia's a little caption i'd like to share..so if u hav time...do browse thru an post any thoughts aye...Enjoy


This is an absolutely incredible short interview with Rick Warren , "Purpose Driven Life " author and pastor of Saddleback Church in California .
In the interview by Paul Bradshaw with Rick Warren, Rick said:

People ask me, What is the purpose of life? And I respond: In a nutshell, life is preparation for eternity. We were made to last forever, and God wants us to be with Him in Heaven.

One day my heart is going to stop, and that will be the end of my body-- but not the end of me.

I may live 60 to 100 years on earth, but I am going to spend trillions of years in eternity. This is the warm-up act - the dress rehearsal.

God wants us to practice on earth what we will do forever in eternity. We were made by God and for God, and until you figure that out, life isn't going to make sense.

Life is a series of problems: Either you are in one now, you're just coming out of one, or you're getting ready to go into another one.

The reason for this is that God is more interested in your character than your comfort.

God is more interested in making your life holy than He is in making your life happy.

We can be reasonably happy here on earth, but that's not the goal of life. The goal is to grow in character, in Christ likeness.

This past year has been the greatest year of my life but also the toughest, with my wife, Kay, getting cancer.

I used to think that life was hills and valleys - you go through a dark time, then you go to the mountaintop, back and forth. I don't believe that anymore.

Rather than life being hills and valleys, I believe that it's kind of like two rails on a railroad track, and at all times you have something good and something bad in your life.

No matter how good things are in your life, there is always something bad that needs to be worked on.

And no matter how bad things are in your life, there is always
something good you can thank God for.

You can focus on your purposes, or you can focus on your problems.

If you focus on your problems, you're going into self-centeredness, "which is my problem, my issues, my pain."

But one of the easiest ways to get rid of pain is to get your focus off yourself and onto God and others.

We discovered quickly that in spite of the prayers of hundreds of thousands of people, God was not going to heal Kay or make it easy for her.

It has been very difficult for her, and yet God has strengthened her character, given her a ministry of helping other people, given her a testimony, drawn her closer to Him and to people.

You have to learn to deal with both the good and the bad of life. Actually, sometimes learning to deal with the good is harder. For instance, this past year, all of a sudden, when the book sold 15 million copies, it made me instantly very wealthy.

It also brought a lot of notoriety that I had never had to deal with before. I don't think God gives you money or notoriety for your own ego or for you to live a life of ease.

So I began to ask God what He wanted me to do with this money, notoriety and influence. He gave me two different passages that helped me decide what to do, II Corinthians 9 and Psalm 72.

First, in spite of all the money coming in, we would not change our lifestyle one bit. We made no major purchases.

Second, about midway through last year, I stopped taking a salary from the church.

Third, we set up foundations to fund an initiative we call The Peace Plan to plant churches, equip leaders, assist the poor, care for the sick, and educate the next generation.

Fourth, I added up all that the church had paid me in the 24 years since I started the church, and I gave it all back. It was liberating to be able to serve God for free.

We need to ask ourselves: Am I going to live for possessions? Popularity? Am I going to be driven by pressures? Guilt? Bitterness? Materialism? Or am I going to be driven by God's purposes (for my life)?

When I get up in the morning, I sit on the side of my bed and say, God, if I don't get anything else done today, I want to know You more and love You better ...

God didn't put me on earth just to fulfill a to-do list. He's more interested in what I am than what I do. That's why we're called human beings, not human doings.

Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.


Trust in the Lord with all thine heart;
and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge HIM,
and HE shall direct thy paths." (Proverbs 3:5-6

Amen, that is great.thank you for sharing ...Paul

how are you all? i hope fine. Again i want show my respect to all religions and the aim of my topics is to show islam in its right view.
here is list by the new topics
1- persentation
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419617
2- Islam(Meanings)
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419629
3- 5 Actions In Islam
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419739
4- Islam Is - A Complete And Total Way of Life
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419871
5- 6 Beliefs Of Muslims
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419672
6- Rights & Limitations in ISLAM
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/419976
7-The Islamic and Christian views of Jesus
http://groups.zorpia.com/group/discover_islam/forum/420181

All my best wishes.