Don't put your life and your families to risk?

5. Was Ahaziah 22 (2 Kings 8:26) or 42 (2 Chronicles 22:2) when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

(Category: copyist error)

Because we are dealing with accounts which were written thousands of years ago, we would not expect to have the originals in our possession today, as they would have disintegrated long ago. We are therefore dependent on the copies taken from copies of those originals, which were in turn continually copied out over a period of centuries. Those who did the copying were prone to making two types of scribal errors. One concerned the spelling of proper names, and the other had to do with numbers.

The two examples of numerical discrepancy here have to do with a decade in the number given. Ahaziah is said to have been 22 in 2 Kings 8:26; while in 2 Chronicles 22:2 Ahaziah is said to have been 42. Fortunately there is enough additional information in the Biblical text to show that the correct number is 22. Earlier in 2 Kings 8:17 the author mentions that Ahaziah's father Joram ben Ahab was 32 when he became King, and he died eight years later, at the age of 40. Therefore Ahaziah could not have been 42 at the time of his father's death at age 40! Such scribal errors do not change Jewish or Christian beliefs in the least. In such a case, another portion of scripture often corrects the mistake (2 Kings 8:26 in this instance). We must also remember that the scribes who were responsible for the copies were meticulously honest in handling Biblical texts. They delivered them as they received them, without changing even obvious mistakes, which are few indeed.

(Refer to the next question for a more in-depth presentation on how scribes could misconstrue numbers within manuscripts)

(Archer 1982:206 and Light of Life II 1992:201)

24. Was King Abijah's mother's name Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2) or Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20 & 2 Samuel 13:27)?

(Category: misunderstood the Hebrew usage)

This apparent contradiction rests on the understanding of the Hebrew word bat, equivalent to the English daughter. Although usually used to denote a first generation female descendant, it can equally refer to more distant kinship. An example of this is 2 Samuel 1:24, which states: 'O daughters of Israel, weep for Saul...' As this is approximately 900 years after Israel (also called Jacob) actually lived, it is clear that this refers to the Israelite women, his distant female descendants.

When seen in this light, the 'contradiction' vanishes. 2 Chronicles 13:2 correctly states that Michaiah is a daughter of Uriel. We can assume that Uriel married Tamar, Absalom's only immediate daughter. Together they had Michaiah who then married king Rehoboam and became the mother of Abijah. 2 Chronicles 11:20 and 1 Kings 15:2, in stating that Maachah was a daughter of Absalom, simply link her back to her more famous grandfather, instead of her lesser known father, to indicate her royal lineage. Abishalom is a variant of Absalom and Michaiah is a variant of Maachah. Therefore, the family tree looks like this:

Absalom/Abishalom
|
Tamar-----Uriel
|
Rehoboam-----Maachah/Michaiah
|
Abijah
11. Did David capture 1,700 of King Zobah's horsemen (2 Samuel 8:4), or was it 7,000 (1 Chronicles 18:4)?

(Category: copyist error)

There are two possible solutions to these differing figures. The first by Keil and Delitzsh (page 360) is a most convincing solution. They maintain that the word for chariotry (rekeb) was inadvertently omitted by the scribe in copying 2 Samuel 8:4, and that the second figure, 7,000 (for the parasim "cavalrymen"), was necessarily reduced to 700 from the 7,000 he saw in his Vorlage for the simple reason that no one would write 7,000 after he had written 1,000 in the recording the one and the same figure. The omission of rekeb might have occurred with an earlier scribe, and a reduction from 7,000 to 700 would have then continued with the successive copies by later scribes. But in all probability the Chronicles figure is right and the Samuel numbers should be corrected to agree with that.

A second solution starts from the premise that the number had been reduced to 700 as it refers to 700 rows, each consisting of 10 horse men, making a total of 7,000.

(Archer 1982:184: Keil & Delitzsch 1949:360; Light of Life II 1992:182)

2. Did Solomon have 40,000 stalls for his horses (1 Kings 4:26), or 4,000 stalls (2 Chronicles 9:25)?

(Category: copyist error, or misunderstood the historical context)

There are a number of ways to answer these puzzling differences. The most plausible is analogous to what we found earlier in challenge numbers five and six above, where the decadal number has been rubbed out or distorted due to constant use.

Others believe that the stalls mentioned in 2 Chronicles were large ones that housed 10 horses each (that is, a row of ten stalls). Therefore 4,000 of these large stalls would be equivalent to 40,000 small ones.

Another commentator maintains that the number of stalls recorded in 1 Kings was the number at the beginning of Solomon's reign, whereas the number recorded in 2 Chronicles was the number of stalls at the end of his reign. We know that Solomon reigned for 40 years; no doubt, many changes occurred during this period. It is quite likely that he reduced the size of the military machine his father David had left him.

(Light of Life II 1992:191)

100. Michal had no child [2 Sam 6:23]

Michal had five children [2 Sam 21:8]

In this case, I'll quote John Baskette's reply previously posted.

What does 2 Sam. 21:8-9 say?

"But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite: And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them in the hill before the LORD: and they fell [all] seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first [days], in the beginning of barley harvest."

This would appear to be a real contradiction except for the phrase "whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai."

The phrasing tells you that these sons are not Michal's in the normal sense of the term because she did not "bear" these children. I.E. these sons are adopted children.

6. Was Jacob (Matthew 1:16) or Heli (Luke 3:23) the father of Joseph and husband of Mary?

(Category: misunderstood the Hebrew usage)

The answer to this is simple but requires some explanation. Most scholars today agree that Matthew gives the genealogy of Joseph and Luke gives that of Mary, making Jacob the father of Joseph and Heli the father of Mary.

This is shown by the two narrations of the virgin birth. Matthew 1:18-25 tells the story only from Joseph's perspective, while Luke 1:26-56 is told wholly from Mary's point of view.

A logical question to ask is why Joseph is mentioned in both genealogies? The answer is again simple. Luke follows strict Hebrew tradition in mentioning only males. Therefore, in this case, Mary is designated by her husband's name.

This reasoning is clearly supported by two lines of evidence. In the first, every name in the Greek text of Luke's genealogy, with the one exception of Joseph, is preceded by the definite article (e.g. 'the' Heli, 'the' Matthat). Although not obvious in English translations, this would strike anyone reading the Greek, who would realize that it was tracing the line of Joseph's wife, even though his name was used.

The second line of evidence is the Jerusalem Talmud, a Jewish source. This recognizes the genealogy to be that of Mary, referring to her as the daughter of Heli (Hagigah 2:4).

(Fruchtenbaum 1993:10-13)

here are the some use full like which can expose u r so called contradictions

http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm#100

onclusion:

In conclusion, once we have weighed the evidence, many if not all of the seeming contradictions posed by Shabbir Ally can be adequately explained.

When we look over the 101 supposed contradictions we find that they fall into 15 broad categories or genres of errors. Listed below are those categories, each explaining in one sentence the errors behind Shabbir's contradictions. Alongside each category is a number informing us how many times he could be blamed for each category. You will note that when you add up the totals they are larger than 101. The reason is that, as you may have already noticed, Shabbir many times makes more than one error in a given question.

Categories of the errors evidenced by Shabbir in his pamphlet:

-he misunderstood the historical context - 25 times
-he misread the text - 15 times
-he misunderstood the Hebrew usage - 13 times
-the texts are compatible with a little thought - 13 times
-he misunderstood the author's intent - 12 times
-these were merely copyist error - 9 times
-he misunderstood how God works in history - 6 times
-he misunderstood the Greek usage - 4 times
-he didn't read the entire text - 4 times
-he misquoted the text - 4 times
-he misunderstood the wording - 3 times
-he had too literalistic an interpretation - 3 times
-he imposed his own agenda - 3 times
-he confused an incident with another - 1 time
-we now have discovered an earlier manuscript - 1 time

It must be admitted that we have in certain places followed explanations or interpretations that are not specifically stated in the text. This is entirely permissible, as the explanations must merely be plausible. It is clear that the gospel authors are writing from different points of view, adding and leaving out different details. This is entirely to be expected when four authors write independently. Far from casting doubt on their accounts, it gives added credibility, as those details which at first appear to be in conflict can be resolved with some thought, yet are free from the hallmarks of obvious collusion, either by the original authors or any subsequent editors.

This testifies to the honesty and openness of the scribes and translators (both Jewish and Christian). Although it would be easy to change this recognized error, this has not been done in favour of remaining true to the manuscripts. Although it leaves the passage open to shallow criticism as Shabbir Ally has shown, it is criticism which we are not afraid of.

In Shabbir's booklet, he puts two verses on the bottom of each page. It would seem appropriate that we give an answer to these quotes, which are:

1.

"God is not the author of confusion..." (1 Corinthians 14:33)

True, God is not the author of confusion. There is very little that is confusing in the Bible. When we understand all the original readings and the context behind them, the confusion virtually

disappears. Of course we need scholarship to understand everything in there, as we are 2,000 - 3,500 years and a translation removed from the original hearers.

But this is no different to the Qur'an. On first (and tenth) readings of the Qur'an there are many things which are not apparent. Take the mysterious letters at the beginning of the suras. It seems that after 1,400 years of scholarship, people can only take a good guess at what on earth they might be there for. Or take the many historical Biblical characters whose stories do not parallel the Bible but seem to originate in second century Talmudic apocryphal writings. This is indeed confusing. However, it is because we can go to the historical context of those writings that we now know that they could not have been authored by God, but were created by men, centuries after the authentic revelation of God had been canonized.
2.

"...A house divided against itself falls" (Luke 11:17)

The Bible is not divided against itself. Jesus was talking about a major division, i.e. Satan destroying his own demons. This is far removed from the Bible. A book four times the size of the Qur'an, with the remaining problems able to be counted on your fingers and toes, a 99.999% agreement! That indeed is remarkable!

We conclude with two quotes of our own:

"The first to present his case seems right... till another comes forward and questions him" (Proverbs 18:17)

"...our dear brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom that God gave him....His letters contain some things that are hard to understand which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction" (2 Peter 3:15-16)

Bibliography:

Archer, Gleason, L., Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties, 1994 Revised Edition, 1982, Zondervan Publishing House
Bivin, David, & Blizzard, Roy, Jr., Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus, Revised Edition, Destiny Image Publishers, 1994
Blomberg, Craig, The Historical Reliability of the Gospels, IVP, Leicester, 1987
France, R.T., Matthew, Tyndale IVP, 1985
Fruchtenbaum, A. 'The Genealogy of the Messiah'. The Vineyard, November 1993, pp.10-13.
Geisler, Norman & Howe, Thomas, When Critics Ask, Victor Books, Wheaton, Illinois, 1992
Haley, John, W., Alleged Discrepancies of the Bible, Whitaker House, Pennsylvania
Harrison, R.K., Old Testament Introduction, Tyndale Press, London, 1970
Keil, C.F., and Delitzsch, F., Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament, 20 vols. Reprint, Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1949
McDowell, Josh, Christianity; A Ready Defence, Harpendon, Scripture Press Foundation, 1990
Morris, Leon, Luke, Tyndale Press, 1974 (1986 reprint)
The True Guidance, Part Two, ('False Charges against the Old Testament'), Light of Life, Austria, 1992
The True Guidance, Part Three, ('False Charges against the New Testament'), Light of Life, Austria, 1992

asalam alakium sis n h ru ?
all u said is the truth
here its video to show the truth too
An old bible found in Palestine confirms the Quran story Tru
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDrObm8aotM
allah bless u

That is grade . I like it .

Greetings!

Wise man,

May God Almighty show you to the straight path, the way of those whom thou has favor (Prophet Adam, Moses Prophet Jesus Christ and Prophet Muhammad).

The worlds is temporary place of mankind. Therefore we should be aware for everything. especially our salvation to hereafter, Day of judgment.

every people is guarded properly his wealth, family and etc., how much more our everlasting life in the hereafter (paradise and hell).

So as wise man we should not be blind for the truth, we should not close our minds, our heart to accept the truth even thou we are immune to astray path (guidance books full of errors and worship helpless man creatures)

Really, if we love our self and our family we must give time enough to look for the truth. Otherwise we cannot comeback to the worlds after death, we cannot really repent anymore after death. So why we put to risk our life since we are enough to see, to read the truth.

Anyway, my dear try to read the absolute free of errors the Holy Qur'an.... Really nothing to lose from you to read

The Holy Qur'an mentioned all the prophets (Prophet Adam, Moses Prophet Jesus Christ and Prophet Muhammad Etc...).

The Qur'an has Million critiques, thousands years ago, but there is no single mistake never been found to Holy Qur'an. So try to read the Holy Qur'an.


Best regards,

wow Fatima some really Nice words from you

Greetings to you as well,

let me introduce my self i m live in Pakistan A Islamic republic i have alot of study of Quaran muslim ,sunnah

well i think you my friend is not aware of the fact that Qur'an being 4 time smaller with the Bible hold much contradictions

or for example

But then how ridiculous the ‘doctrine of abrogation’ is, by which later revelations cancel previous ones, as Qur’an (2:106) confirms, ‘revelations… We abrogate or cause to be forgotten‘. Also, a Hadith (6:558) from Sahih Bukhari confirmed that Muhammad forgot many verses. Again Sunaan ibn Majah, (3: 1944) recorded that after Muhammad’s death some revelations were eaten by a goat. How divine words can be eaten, changed, cancelled or abolished, in spite of Allah’s specific claim in 10:64 and 6:34?


the Most funniest part is the diving words has been Eaten by goats,forget about every thing do look into the contradiction but see the Allah being all power unable to protect a book which he swear to protect by these little goats

Let's examine some of the contradictions in the Quran.

The Quran differs whether a day is 1000 years, or 50,000 years see sura 32:4, and 70:4.

On the day of Judgment the infidels attempt to conceal something from God Sura 6:22-23. But in Sura 4"45 we see that the infidels don't attempt to conceal anything.

In sura 56 the people who follow Muhammad will be "a crowd of the former, and few of the latter generations" verse 14. But in verse 39 it says that the people of Muhammad will be "a crowd of the latter generations." Other translations have "multitude" as the word instead of "crowd." so which one is it, a few of the latter, or a crowd?

Commenting on the Exodus, God told the Israelites, "And it was said to them, "Dwell in this city, and eat therefrom what ye will, and say "Hittat" (forgiveness) and enter the gate with prostration's; then we will pardon your offences, we will give increase to the doers of good" (7"162)

In Sura 34:50, Muhammad is commanded to say the following:

Say: ‘If I go astray, I go astray only to my own loss; if I am guided, it is by what my Lord reveals to me. He is All-hearing, Ever-nigh.’ Arberry

Say: "If (even) I go astray, I shall stray only to my own loss. But if I remain guided, it is because of the Inspiration of my Lord to me. Truly, He is All­Hearer, Ever Near (to all things)." Hilali & Khan

The error in this verse should be obvious to anyone pondering this statement for a little bit. The issue here is not whether, objectively, Muhammad went astray or was guided; Muslims and non-Muslims will continue to disagree about that. This verse is logically wrong, independent of whether Muhammad was guided or not.

# Who Was the First Muslim? Muhammad [6:14, 163], Moses [7:143], some Egyptians [26:51], or Abraham [2:127-133, 3:67] or Adam, the first man who also received inspiration from Allah [2:37]?
# Can Allah be seen and did Muhammad see his Lord? Yes [S. 53:1-18, 81:15-29], No [6:102-103, 42:51].
# Were Warners Sent to All Mankind Before Muhammad? Allah had supposedly sent warners to every people [10:47, 16:35-36, 35:24], Abraham and Ishmael are specifically claimed to have visited Mecca and built the Kaaba [2:125-129]. Yet, Muhammad supposedly is sent to a people who never had a messenger before [28:46, 32:3, 34:44, 36:2-6]. This article also raises other issues: What about Hud and Salih who supposedly were sent to the Arabs? What about the Book that was supposedly given to Ishmael? Etc.
# What will be the food for the people in Hell? The food for the people in Hell will be only "Dhari" [Sura 88:6], or only foul pus from the washing of wounds [S. 69:36], or will they also get to eat from the tree of Zaqqum [S. 37:66]? Together, these verses constitute three contradictions.
# Can Angels Cause the Death of People? The Qur'an attacks those who worship anyone besides God (e.g. angels or prophets) because those can neither create, nor give life, nor cause anyone to die. Yet, the Qur'an explicitly states that one angel or several angels are causing certain people to die [Sura 4:97, 16:28, 32, 32:11].
# Confusion Concerning Identity of the Spirit and Gabriel (a long discussion of dozens of references)
# 'Iddah rules for divorced and widowed women appear to be arbitrary and inconsistent.
# Is there a minimum age of marriage for girls?
# To Marry or Not to Marry? The Qur'an forbids believers to marry idolatrous women [Sura 2:221], and calls Christians idolaters and unbelievers [9:28-33], but still allows Muslims to marry Christian women [5:5].
# Will it be accepted of them or not?
# Will Allah reward the good deeds of Unbelievers? S. 9:17 and 9:69 clearly say no. However, S. 99:7 implies yes. Moreover, S. 2:62 promises Christians reward for their good deeds. But S. 9:28-33; 5:17, 72-73 calls Christians idolaters, and S. 9:17 is very clear that idolaters will have no reward.

well my dear friend there are many and just many to go

here are the some of the useful links

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/index.html
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/index.htmlhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/astray.html
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/i003.html
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/06/16/ancient-quranic-manuscripts-of-sanaa-and-divine-downfall/
http://www.british-israel.ca/Islam.htm

you know i sincerly like the words from you
so i will like to qoute them here as well

So as wise man we should not be blind for the truth, we should not close our minds, our heart to accept the truth even thou we are immune to astray path (guidance books full of errors and worship helpless man creatures)

well there are some nostic gospels and other's many book mention about Jesus even some of the newspapers also contian Jesus words that does't mean it is holy

well i will invite you to read the bible read the teaching of Jesus what bad is there for one to believe it no where allows killing ask you to love your enemies pray for those who persecute you and all above have salvation laid down for us in Jesus that Isiah clearly mention in Isiah 53

stay in touch

kind Regards,

hey again arpheel and h ru ?
Was there something wrong with early Qur'anic fragments/specimens found in the great mosque of Sanaa in Yemen
Some christian missionaries quote Gerd Puin’s (old) theory about the early quranic manuscripts found in the Sanaa mosque in Yemen, Gerd Puin assumed (not stated) that these found manuscripts differed from others quranic manuscripts , and therefore christian missionaries argue that the quran was changed in history etc. First i will quote the article about this issue commonly used by some christian missionaries, after this i will give a reponse to this christian article.
Christian article = blue

Islamic response = black
A Qur'an Palimpsest from the Sanaa Qur'ans
One of the big formate Hijazi Qur'ans, found in the Great Mosque in Sanaa, is a palimpsest from early 8th century. Here is a picture of one of its sheets:
Palimpsest of Codex Sanaa 01-27.1, Dâr al-MakhTûTât al-Yamanîya, Sanaa,

(Photo: Gerd-Ruediger Puin; 1)
This codex is one of the Qur'an fragments/specimens which were found in 1972 in the loft of the Great Mosque in Sanaa, Yemen. [/b] These Yemeni Qur'ans were an object of scholarly research from 1980 onwards. Under the supervision of Dr. Albrecht Noth, Professor at the University of Hamburg, Dr. Gerd-Ruediger Puin was in charge of the scholarly as well as practical organization of the project from 1981 until 1985, when he was succeeded by his colleague Dr. Hans-Caspar Graf von Bothmer for another two years (2).
The above piece of the palimpsest codex shows two layers of script. Both scripts are of the Hijazi type:
Firstly, a dark brown script is part of surah 20:1-10 (surah Taahaa or al-kamiyl).
Secondly, with some patience you will realize that under the darkbrown script traces of a light brown script are recognizable. This latter original script was washed off from the parchment so that it might be used again. The chess-boardlike pattern of the substrate is an artifact of the scanning procedure.
Without applying special technical means the older script is not readable, but it is undoubtedly a Qur'anic text, too. This is to be seen easily by a peculiarity of both layers of writing: The washed off script as well as the second writing display verse separators, i.e. some simple geometrical point patterns. Even in the above small piece of the palimpsest one may recognize such separators in both layers of writing. Additionally at least one separator of surahs (two parallel lines crossing the page from right to left, again with some patterns between them) clearly can be recognized in the original script of the palimpsest codex (to be seen in the above piece). Such separators were used only in Qur’ans. There seems to be not any exception in non-Qur’anic texts within other early-Islamic writings.
Why the older layer was wiped out cannot be said definitely untill it can be read in detail. But there is hardly any other explanation for this replacement of a Qur'anic text by another one conceivable than that the older text version might have scandalized theologians or other people in power or charge. This doesn't necessarily imply an alteration of the very text, since the formative period of the Qur'anic text already may have been completed, when the first script was written. Most probably the arrangement of the surahs was altered. And this hypothesis is corroborated by the fact that amongst the findings in Sanaa there are indeed Qur'ans with an arrangement of surahs different from the transmitted Qur'an.
Notes:
1. Hans-Caspar Graf von Bothmer, Karl-Heinz Ohlig, Gerd-Ruediger Puin: "Neue Wege der Koranforschung". magazin forschung (Universitaet des Saarlandes, Saarbruecken) 1/1999, p. 33-46; courtesy of Dr. Gerd-Ruediger Puin.
2. Gerd-Ruediger Puin : "Observations on Early Qur'an Manuscripts in San'a'". - Stefan Wild (ed.), The Qur'an As Text, Leiden/New York/Koeln (E. J. Brill) 1996, p. 107-111
Source; http://www.christoph-heger.de/palimpse.htm
Response:
As regard to the Sana'a Mss, there is nothing "shocking" about its discovery. At most, it is claimed that there is a fragment where the end of sura 26 is followed by 37. But this amounts to nothing, since it is permissable to place suras in any order in a partial mushaf. So this is hardly "news" or a "shocking" discovery.
Moreover, after the publication of the Atlantic Monthly, Puin wrote a letter in which he revealed:
"The important thing, thank God, is that these Yemeni Qur'anic fragments do not differ from those found in museums and libraries elsewhere, with the exception of details that do not touch the Qur'an itself, but are rather differences in the way words are spelled. This phenomenon is well-known, even in the Qur'an published in Cairo in which is written:
Ibrhim next to Ibrhm

Quran next to Qrn

Simahum next to Simhum
In the oldest Yemeni Qur'anic fragments, for example, the phenomenon of not writing the vowel alif is rather common."
Prof. Azami comments:
"This deflates the entire controversy, dusting away the webs of intrigue that were spun around Puin's discoveries and making them a topic unworthy of further speculation."
Source: Puin's letter and Prof. Azami's comments cited from: M. M. Azami, The History of the Qur'anic Text from Revelation to Compilation: A Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments, UK Islamic Academy, 2003 pp. 12
Some extra info:
Question
Why would manuscripts have to be washed off or erased? What was wrong with them if the parchments were fit to be washed and then have the Quranic text rewritten upon them?
Answer
This was a common practice in ancient times. When enough of a manuscript's writing wore off (ink does not bond to parchment like it does to paper), all of the writing was washed off to make the expensive parchment usable for a new text. This was an ancient way of recycling. The washing, fortunately for us, was not complete: that's how earlier texts can be seen using ultraviolet light underneath newer texts. I believe a Christian manuscript (at St. Catherine's monastery in the Sinai?) was examined a few years ago under ultraviolet light to reveal an earlier, lost Greek work.
Joh Bourdon:
What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad.
source: J. Bourdon, The Collection Of The Qur'an, 1977, Cambridge University Press, pp. 239-240.
Recommended sites:
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/burton.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Mss/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/
Rebuttals and exposing the lies of the "Answering Islam" team.

Respones to the so-called "contradictions" in the Noble Quran.

Responses to the so-called "textual errors" in the Noble Quran.

Brother Karim's section.
peace be with u

Wise man,

Greetings!

May God Almighty show you to the straight path, the way of those whom thou has favor (Prophet Adam, Moses Prophet Jesus Christ and Prophet Muhammad).

The worlds is temporary place of mankind. Therefore we should be aware for everything. especially our salvation to hereafter, Day of judgment.

every people is guarded properly his wealth, family and etc., how much more our everlasting life in the hereafter (paradise and hell).

So as wise man we should not be blind for the truth, we should not close our minds, our heart to accept the truth even thou we are immune to astray path (guidance books full of errors and worship helpless man creatures)

Really, if we love our self and our family we must give time enough to look for the truth. Otherwise we cannot comeback to the worlds after death, we cannot really repent anymore after death. So why we put to risk our life since we are enough to see, to read the truth.

Anyway, my dear try to read the absolute free of errors the Holy Qur'an.... Really nothing to lose from you to read

The Holy Qur'an mentioned all the prophets (Prophet Adam, Moses Prophet Jesus Christ and Prophet Muhammad Etc...).

The Qur'an has Million critiques, thousands years ago, but there is no single mistake never been found to Holy Qur'an. So try to read the Holy Qur'an.


Best regards,

By Ali Sina

“Islam is a religion of peace”. This is what our politically correct politicians keep telling us. But what is politically correct is not necessarily correct. The truth is that Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a religion of hate, of terror and of war. A thorough study of the Quran and Hadith reveal an Islam that is not being presented honestly by the Muslim propagandists and is not known to the majority of the people of the world including Muslim themselves. Islam, as it is taught in the Quran (Koran) and lived by Muhammad, as is reported in the Hadith (Biography and sayings of the Prophet) is a religion of Injustice, Intolerance, Cruelty, Absurdities, discrimination, Contradictions, and blind faith. Islam advocates killing the non-Muslims and abuses the human rights of minorities and women. Islam expanded mostly by Jihad (holy war) and forced its way by killing the non-believers. In Islam apostasy is the biggest crime punishable by death. Muhammad was a terrorist himself therefore terrorism cannot be separated from the true Islam. Islam means submission and it demands from its followers to submit their wills and thoughts to Muhammad and his imaginary Allah. Allah is a deity that despises reason, democracy, freedom of thought and freedom of expression.

I reject Islam a) because of Muhammad’s lack of moral and ethical fortitude and b) because of the absurdities in the Quran.

a) Muhammad lived a less than holy life. His lust for sex, his affairs with his maids and slave girls, his pedophilic relationship at age 54 with Aisha, a 9-year-old child, his killing sprees, his massacre and the genocide of the Jews, his slave making and trading, his assassination of his opponents, his raids and lootings of the merchant caravans and unarmed villagers, his burning of trees, his destroying the water wells, his cursing and invoking evil on his enemies, his revenge on his captured prisoners of war, his torturing of his captives to for greed and his hallucinations such as believing of having sex with his wives when he actually did not, disqualify him as a sane person let alone a messenger of God.

b) An unbiased study of the Quran shows that far from being a “miracle”, that book is a hoax. The Quran is replete with scientific heresies, historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities, grammatical errors and ethical fallacies. Could possibly the author of this Universe be as ignorant as it appears to be in the Quran?

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” for ransom (47:4).

This is how the pagans are to be treated. As for the Christians and the Jews, the order is to subdue them and impose on them a penalty tax, after humiliating them (9:29) and if they resist, kill them.

The Quran is alien to freedom of belief and recognizes no other religion but Islam (3:85). It condemns those who do not believe to hellfire (5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (9:28), orders the Muslims to fight them until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193), slay or crucify or cut the hands and the feet of the unbelievers and to expel them from the land with disgrace.

It stresses that the disbelievers shall have a great punishment in the world hereafter (5:34) and figuratively depicts a horrendous chastisement for them stating that they will go to hell to drink boiling water (14:17), that they will be engulfed in smoke and flames like the wall and the roof of a tent and if they implore relief they will be granted water like melting brass that will scald their faces, (18:29) and that “garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods” (22:19).

It also prohibits Muslims to associate with their own brothers and fathers if they are non-believers (9:23), (3:28).

As for the women the book of Allah is emphatic that they are inferior to men and if they disobey their husbands the latter have the right to beat them (4:34). Their punishment for disobeying their husbands does not end there, because after they die they will go to hell (66:10). The Quran emphasizes the superiority of men by confirming that men have an advantage over the women (2:228). It not only denies women’s equal right to their inheritance (4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their testimony is not admissible in the court of law unless it is accompanied with the testimony of a man (2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness. Muhammad allowed the Muslim men to marry up to four wives (although he himself had a score of them) and gave them license to enjoy their “right-hand possessions” (women captured in wars), as many as they can capture or afford to buy (4:3), even if the woman is married before being captured (4:24).

The man who called himself the holy Prophet and a “mercy of God for all beings” did just that. Jawairiyah, Rayhanah and Safiyah were beautiful young girls who were captured when he raided the tribes of Banu al-Mustaliq, Qurayza and Nadir. The prophet slew their husbands, fathers and their male relatives and let his men rape them while he kept the prettiest for himself and raped her in the same day while they were still in the shock of the loss of their loved ones.

This book scrutinizes Islam with Rational Thinking. It rejects time-honored beliefs that cannot stand the probing of reason. It asks questions and encourages independent thinking. It promotes unity of humankind, equality between men and women, abolition of prejudices and freedom from dogmatism and blind faith.

In a world that has become technologically so advanced that even some poor nations that cannot feed themselves boast having nuclear and biological weapons, small misunderstandings can have catastrophic results. Religion has always been a major source of misunderstandings among mankind. For religion, many people are ready to die, kill and destroy everything. Islam encourages that aggressive spirit explicitly. Only a Muslim can believe that he would go to paradise if he kills other human beings. Only a Muslim has no regard for lives that he destroys because their faith is not right.

In the last few decades, and thanks to the newfound wealth of the oil rich Islamic countries and massive immigration to the West, Islamic fundamentalism has been on the rise and the dormant spirit of Jihadism has been rekindled once again. This fervor has been translated into terrorism, revolutions, and upheavals, and world peace has been put in jeopardy. Millions of lives are now in danger.

Quran tells Muslims to slay the unbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), do not befriend them (3:28), fight them and show them harshness (9:123), and smite their heads (47:4).

Let us pause for a moment and take a second look at Islam. Can these really be the words of God? Was Muhammad really a messenger of God or was he a crazy man, like Hitler, who used the religious sentiment of the gullible to conquer, to dominate and to have an endless supply for his narcissistic cravings?

Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. It cannot be reformed. It must be eradicated. Islam must be eradicated not because the Quran says Earth is flat or the shooting stars are missiles that Allah fires at the Jinns who climb the heaven to eavesdrop on the conversation of the exalted assembly. These stupid tales could even amuse us. Islam must go because it teaches hate, it orders killing of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates the human rights. Islam must go not because it is false but because it is destructive, because it is dangerous; a threat to peace and security of humankind. With the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction in Islamic countries, Islam has become a serious and a real threat to the survival of our civilization.

In order for you to appreciate the evilness of Islam, let us choose a few verses of the Quran and switch the words “Muslim” and “non-Muslims” and see how they look:

We will cast terror into the hearts of Muslims. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. 8:12
Let not the non-Muslims take for friends or helpers the Muslims. 3:28,
Rouse the non-Muslims to the fight against Muslims. 8:65,
Then fight and slay the Muslims wherever ye find them, 9:5,
Fight the Muslims, and God will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame. 9:14,
O ye the non-Muslims take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Islam.9:23,
O ye the non-Muslims! Truly the Muslims are unclean. 9:28,
O ye non-Muslims! fight the Muslims who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you. 9:123,
Therefore, when ye meet the Muslims, smite at their necks; At length. 47:4,

Can these satanic verses be from God?

We don’t have to face another world war. We can stop this madness by eradicating Islam. We can love each other like members of one family and celebrate our diversity. We can build a better world for our children. We can sing the songs of unity together. We can make this world a paradise but we have to remove the false doctrines that divide mankind into “us” versus “them” and believers versus disbelievers first.

You and I are humans. We are part of the Humanity. We are members of one family: the family of Humankind. God created us all because he loved us all. Do not destroy what God has made. Muhammad was insane. Like Hitler he was a brilliant and manipulative psychopath. Please read the Quran and the original history of Muhammad. Not the history written by today’s unscrupulous apologists of Islam but the history written by the early historians. Read the book of Al Waqidi, Ibn Ishaq and Al Tabari’s. Read the Hadith and see for yourself that what I say is the truth. We are a billion or more people, following an insane man. This is a colossal tragedy. No wonder Islamic world is sunk in utter misery, abundant poverty and abject ignorance. Our forefathers were forced to convert to Islam and our fathers did not have the chance to question it. But now we have that chance. Isn’t it time that we look into our faith to at least know what is it that we believe in?

This site reveals the bitter truth about Islam. It proves that it is not a religion of God. If you disagree with me, prove me wrong and I promise to remove this site. I challenge the apologists of Islam to prove me wrong or stop misleading the world with half truths and misinformation. But if no one can disprove me, as many Muslims have tried and failed, then I invite you to learn about the dark side of the Quran and the Hadith by reading the articles written by numerous authors (mostly ex-Muslims) and transcripts of debates that I have had with Muslim apologists who have tried to explain away the absurdities of Islam. I invite you to read the facts that I have quoted from the Quran and the Hadith that lead me to my conclusions. Above all, I invite you to put yourself in the position of the victims of Islam to appreciate the evilness of this so called religion. I want you to ask yourself whether you would like to be treated by non-Muslims as Islam and Muslims have treated and continue to treat the non-Muslims wherever they are the majority. Finally, I invite you to reject Islam and join us, the apostates, to save the world from “Islamic doom.”

Let us save the world from its certain destruction. We don’t have to face another world war. We can stop this madness now. We can love each other like members of one family and celebrate our diversity like flowers of one garden. We can build a better world for our children. We can sing the songs of joy together. We can make a difference. Let not a psychopath liar fool you. Do not become an instrument of hate. Muhammad lied. This site is the proof.

courtesy: http://www.faithfreedom.org/prologue/

Well,

May God almighty guide you!

Well, you are really blind for the history. You don't know nothing about Islam if it is your knowledge in Islam.

Read the Qur ' an if it is his teaching. Qur'an revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in MAKKA etc.

On that time the Arabs, the worlds were plunged in the depth of ignorance and barbarism, They adored helpless 365 kinds idols. They live unchastely, They ate dead meat and they spoke abominations. They disregarded every feeling of humanity, they knew no law but that of the strong.

When Allah (God) raised among them a man of whose birth , truthfulness, honesty, and purity they were aware. He called to the oness of Allah (God), and thaught them not to associate anything with Him. He forbade them to worship idols, and he enjoined to them to speak the truth, to be faithful to their trust , to be merciful and to regard the right of humankind, He forbade to speak evil of woman, orphans and to all mankind's.

For this reason, the unbelievers risen against the believer of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. so the unbelievers persecuted, tortured, injured etc., the all believers of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.

Therefore, if we look at to the worlds what happenings before and after are the some unbelievers secretly and boldly attacked, persecuted, grabbed the lives, wealth, lands etc., of the Muslim Ummah.

If you judge what happening today's new era some country they are advancing, progressing but they left the SPIRITS.

So nothing they earn in this world for their hereafter....


Have you not seen that some Muslim country are very low of crimes than the highly advance non-Muslim country?


Well, No compulsion in religion. Its up to you to worship helpless man made idols? Its up to you to use as guidance a book man revised and full of errors and doubts.

Its up to you to forget the true revelation the Holy Qur'an which is no errors absolute true guidance from God Almighty.

Best regards,

thanks for Replying Fatima

let see from your above mention statements
Quaran Allah decided to reveal it final document as what Quaran states the most important document for humanity

not only Quaran but its revealing and its way of trasmitting is soo dubious that it create so much doubts in our mind a person who was incharge of looking the authencity of Quaran is Illerate it means you had made some one a editor of a newspaper who have no knowledge well dear then no one is going to read that newspaper

The Quran was revealed to Mohammed who was, as Muslims insist, illiterate and therefore unable to verify the accuracy of the scripts written for him by some volunteering scribes. Trusting Mohammed with the Quran is like trusting an illiterate person to edit a newspaper. With a document as important as the Quran, it would not be enough just to assume that the scribes were honest and trustworthy, especially that at least one of them, Abdulla Ibn Abi Al Sarh, admitted that he regularly made changes to the text of the Quran without Mohammed even noticing!(1)

courtesy: http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/06/30/the-quran-and-hadith-which-is-more-authentic/

The Quran is probably the least authentic document in Islam as evidenced from the state of confusion and disagreements that prevailed among the early Muslims. The early Muslims disagreed on what constituted part of the Quran and what didn’t. Ibn Massoud’s copy of the Quran included two chapters less than Uthman’s copy because he did not believe the last two chapters were actually Quranic chapters (2). Others reported that surat tauba (chapter nine, which contains 129 verses) used to be as long as surat Bakara (chapter two, which contains 286 verses) before the verses gone missing (2). Abdullah Ibn Umar reportedly said, ‘Let none of you say, “I have got the whole of the Qur’an.” How does he know what all of it is? Much of the Quran has gone’. Let him say instead, I have got what has survived (6). The enormous amounts of repetitions and contradictions could be an indication of some degree of duplication and manipulation of the original text.

Ibn Massoud was renowned among Mohammed’s companions as the most notable in his knowledge of the Quran; it is claimed that he recorded his own copy which he kept with him. Ibn Massoud’s copy of the Quran was significantly different from the official copy of Uthman, which he refused to recognize (2). Some verses were lost, even the ones kept in Mohammed’s own house! Aysha admitted that she used to keep the stoning verse under her bed until it was eaten by a goat! (3)

well now this is the interesting put a divine knowledge been eaten up by Goat's

i told you that i m live my life as i have to die tomorrow and i learn things as i have to live forever
well may be some where you would be right that i might be missing something but i told you i have grown up not in any christian dominated society but a Islamic Republic Pakistan and as like any other Muslim country you have forbidden on criticizing of Islam so we have to digg a lot in the search of truth

Allah
The Arabs had tribal gods in which they worshipped. Every tribe had their own God. "The Quraysh tribe into which Muhammad was born was particularly devoted to ALLAH..." (Islamic Invasion, Morey, p.51, emphasis mine). Before Muhammad was EVER BORN, his tribe worshipped Allah, and he was the CHIEF GOD OF MECCA: "Its been pointed out that Mecca was in the control of the Quraysh tribe into which Muhammad was born" (ibid., pp.39-40). Since they were in control of Mecca, it was only right that their God was chief of the Kaaba in Mecca.

"Historians like Vaqqidi have said Allah was actually the chief of the 360 gods being worshipped in Arabia at the time Mohammed rose to prominence. Ibn Al-Kalbi gave 27 names of pre-Islamic deities...Interestingly, not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshipped at the Ka'ba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Mohammed came. Some Muslims become angry when they are confronted with this fact. But history is not on their side. Pre-Islamic literature has proved this" (G. J. O. Moshay, Who Is This Allah?, Dorchester House, Bucks, UK, 1994, pg. 134, emphasis added)

now very intresting and answering words come from the mouth of Ceasare Farah concludes: "There is NO REASON therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslim from the Christians and the Jews" (Islam, p.28, emphasis mine). We must look for the ORIGINS OF ALLAH AMONG THE ARABIAN DEITIES,and NOT from the Judeo-Christian Bible!

Courtesy: http://www.british-israel.ca/Islam.htm

History of Islam is not so good even the pioneer of Islam was a massive Killer

“Sirat e Rasulullah” by Ishaq, page 464

After 800-900 male adults of Bani Quraiza were beheaded in batches, and thrown in trenches dug in Madina, the apostle divided their property, wives and children as booty… He took Rayhana d. Amr b. Khunafa for himself.

Bukhari , Volume 5, Book 59, Number 362:
Narrated Ibn Umar:

Prophet then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims

After the massacre was completed the booty was distributed including real estate, personal belongings and women. First Prophet took his 20% prophetic cut. The crowning jewel of his share of booty was the gorgeous teenager Reyhana . The remaining booty was then distributed by a fair lottery system among the Jihadis.

Prophet took Rehana as his share of the booty.

(Ref: Waqqidi, Tabari)

A fifth of the booty was, as usual, reserved for the Prophet, and the rest divided. From the fifth Mahomet MADE CERTAIN PRESENTS TO HIS FRIENDS OF FEMALE CAPTIVES AND CHILDREN. (Ref Waqqidi, Tabari, and Ishaq)

Mahomet had part of his share of enslaved women and children from Quraiza sent and sold to the Bedouin tribes of Najd , in exchange for horses and arms.

The History of Tabari, vol 8, pge 29-30

From his share of captive women, prophet gave his son-in-law, Ali a slave girl, Raytah bt Hilal to enjoy her at his will. He also presented Uthman b. Affan, his son-in-law, another slave girl Zainab b. Hayan, and bestowed another girl (name unknown) to his father in-law Omar Ibn Khattab. Omar gave that girl to his son Abdullah. Most of Prophet's other elite companions received slave girls.

its is really interesting part we have a savior of humanity who distribute humanity like a property among his followers it just in order to fulfill the lust of himself and other of his companions
they distribute girls among them as its there father property
interesting part is this that Prophet has his reserved rate
well if today he do this he would be the most hatred person of history

well if you say that non Muslim countries are worst and Muslim countries are better then i will like to invite you to at least come and have a trip to Pakistan or any other Muslim countries and only then you can know the truth things are a lot worsen over here 50 per of crimes are not reported due to the fear of stronger opposition

and there is a lot debate on and its universally establish fact that Muslim countries thou Quaran says Muslims are best of humanity have the lowest standard of living people are killed for just the sake of small amount of money and many other if u don't mind then we can have another dialogue on it

thanks for reading
Peace be with you

Well,

you are wise man enough, You are just commenting on the mans errors.

Did I not tell you to comment on the Qur'an? The God words (original manuscript)?

Yes you can find man mistake the translations etc... But you can't find mistakes to the God words (Arabic version).

Anyway, nothing you can debase, reduce from the power of God almighty, If you believe or not.

But always think or pay much attention that God almighty create the heavenly bodies (Milky way, Galaxy) and the law of nature etc., by his will (and plans).

Meaning save your self in the penalty dwelling hellfire in the hereafter.

God almighty equipped you a good eyes, good minds etc., to evaluate, observe the one you worship (helpless idols). Idols can't help you? You, Dogs etc., are better than idols if you would use your minds.

Awake!
Open your eyes!
You are not blind!
you are wise man enough! Don't be blind followers!
Don't be die as blind followers!
Don't die as idols worshiper!
Don't die as unbeliever!

Best regards,

yes u r tru

Thanks a lot!

May Allah bless us all